God ordained Marriage between a Man and a Woman, Why? He said it is not good for Man to be alone and so He created a Woman to help them, yes we are greatly needed but so is a Man or God would have just created a Woman… Hmmmm I wonder where God would have got the rib from if there had been No Man ? perhaps there will be a few helpful ideas given to clarify this mystery.
Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the Man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.(KJV)
Why are we Woman needed, although very important it is not just for cooking, housework and to have babies, as Woman we are Men’s Helpmate Mentally, Physically, Emotionally and we Support and Encourage them Spiritually. We see this confirmed with some of the Woman mentioned in Scripture, Yes we are very Precious to God and He values us greatly.
Deborah the Prophetess who was Married rebuked Barak for wanting her to be in Leadership but Trusted God and obeyed Barak and went with him but than encouraged him to Lead and he was successful. Deborah called herself a Mother (Judges5:7 ) as Eve was called (Genesis3:20 ) which is the Submissive role. Deborah shared God’s Truth in Judgment under His Authority but never in the place of Worship instead the Israelites came to her.
Why do we as Woman need Men, just to help make babies, to do the heavy work around the house and to provide for our needs and wants No! they give us the Stability we need too, Physically, Emotionally, Mentally and they Lead and Support us Spiritually, we become one flesh, yes they are our Authority under God and they will be accountable for this, both God given Roles are very important, neither is Superior or Inferior they are just different.
Ephesians 5:22-25 Wives submit yourselves unto your own Husbands as unto the Lord. For the Husband is the Head of the Wife even as Christ is the Head of the Church and He is the Saviour of the Body. Therefore as the Church is subject unto Christ so let the Wives be to their own Husbands in everything. Husbands Love your Wives even as Christ also Loved the Church and gave Himself for it. (KJV)
Ephesians 5:28-30 So ought Men to Love their Wives as their own bodies. He that Loveth his Wife Loveth himself. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so Love his Wife even as himself and the Wife see that she reverence her Husband. For no Man ever yet hated his own flesh but nourisheth and cherisheth it even as the Lord the Church. For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.(KJV)
Today the Roles are becoming confused, some Men are rejecting their Leadership Role and Responsibilities or they are male Chauvinists treating Woman as their chattels without respect and some Woman are seeking to be in Authority over Men but ultimately this will lead to weakened Relationships and wrong roles models for Children and in the Church deception in Teaching and lack of stability in the Body.
Please do not misunderstand God is not saying as Woman we are not needed in the Church they were in the early Church, we are very much needed but Men not Women are to be in Loving and Sacrificial Leadership both in the in Marriage and in the Church and as Woman we are to be in willing but not forced Submission and our needs are to be considered first, Physically and Spiritually but Men are responsible for making the final decision in all matters of importance in regard to the welfare of those involved both in the Church and in Marriage and we as Woman are to respect them and submit to their Leadership.
Does this mean we are less than a Man to be seen and not heard and what we share is of no real value so Men never need to seek or respect a Woman’s advice, No! a wise man will but not when we are in disobedience and contradicting God’s guidelines which was why Adam was punished. Eve was deceived and disobeyed God but Adam chose to listen to Eve and knowingly disobeyed Him even though he knew it was wrong. (Genesis 3:17)
Some claim that the Apostle Junia was a Woman but the early Greek confirms that this Apostle was a Man not a Woman as we can see clearly in the rest of the verse below and in the early Greek Translations.
Romans 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia my Kinsmen (Male Relative) and my fellow Prisoners who are of Note among the Apostles who also were in Christ before me.(KJV)
Junia has been changed in some Translations including a Cult one to Junias but strangely in one well known Translation of the Scriptures, the Writers have used Junias in all of their previous Translations but have now changed it back to Junia in their last Translation and as confirmed they have also deleted important Scriptures some of which are the same as the Cults deleted or changed in their Translations.
But what is a important confirmation is that for a Woman to be appointed as an Apostle it would mean she would have to Preach and be in Authority over Men and this is in contradiction to God’s guidelines concerning Men and Woman’s roles both in the Church and in Marriage.
1 Timothy 2:11-14 Let the Woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a Woman to Teach nor to usurp Authority over the Man but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed then Eve and Adam was not deceived but the Woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye Husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the Wife as unto the weaker vessel and as being Heirs together of the grace of life that your Prayers be not hindered.
Both Men and Woman are to sit at the feet of Jesus to learn in agreement, we are all His Disciples (see below ) He is our only Teacher (Matthew23:8-10) and either may be chosen and anointed to Teach God’s Truth within their Roles, having asked for and received His Wisdom and Empowering and if so what is shared will be confirmed in Scripture or/ and Creation, if not we reject it.
Matthew 12 47-50 Then one said unto Him; Behold thy Mother and thy Brethren stand without desiring to speak with thee. But He answered and said unto him that told Him, Who is my Mother? and who are my Brethren? And He stretched forth His hand toward His Disciples and said; Behold my Mother and my Brethren! For whosoever shall do the Will of my Father which is in Heaven the same is my Brother and Sister and Mother.
As Woman we are the same Spiritually as Men there is no difference in Christ Jesus, we are all One Spiritually with Him even though our Roles are different to Mens. We can share God’s Truth as confirmed in Scripture with both Men and Woman, Pray and Worship together and correct error as He leads us to do so under His Authority and with His empowering through The Holy Spirit.
Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither Male nor Female for ye are all one in Christ Jesus and if ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed and Heirs according to the Promise.
1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is One Spirit.(KJV)
Woman can be in Authority over other Woman and Children of all ages but we are not to Teach in Authority by being Ordained as a Preacher or be in any positions where we are in Authority over Men in The Church, this is not part of our God given Role.
I have encountered strong opposition against God’s Roles for both Men and Woman and I realize some Woman will feel God’s guidelines are unfair but it is for our Protection because as Eve was deceived so can we be when in disobedience and it is disobedience for woman to be in Authority over Men both in the Church and in Marriage.
One Ordained Woman Preacher told me to forget the Scriptures and explain why God would not want her to be a Preacher (2Timothy 3:1-17) the word “Speak” in the Greek means Preach or Teach and to do so in Church means we are in Authority over Men, as we can see below this Woman Preacher was rejecting God’s guidelines in Scripture for her own fleshy agenda.
1Corinthians 14:33 -38 For God is not the Author of confusion, but of Peace as in all Churches of the Saints. Let your Women keep silence in the Churches for it is not permitted unto them to Speak but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the Law. And if they will learn anything let them ask their Husbands at home for it is a shame for Women to Speak in the Church. What came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? If any Man think himself to be a Prophet, or Spiritual let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the Commandments of the Lord. But if any Man be ignorant let him be ignorant.
A good tool to use is E – Sword (see below) it is based on the oldest Translation of the Scriptures in use today so has less of man’s Translation errors which God will also show us having asked for His Wisdom and Empowering. It confirms that the word Speak also referred to Preach but of course so does other Scripture. Does it also mean we cannot sing, share, Pray in Church, No we are part of the Body of Christ and are free to join together with Men in Worship and Prayer, we are One in Christ Jesus but we are not to Teach or Preach in Authority over Men, the Woman who did this in the Scriptures above were told they were to ask their Husbands at home for God’s Guidelines, which are for the Body of Christ’s Protection.
Some have claimed that these guidelines were only written for the early Church but as we can see confirmed above they are for all God’s Churches and those in Authority who reject them are ignorant, which means they are in the flesh and not walking in The Spirit. This is True too for all those who are contentious and also argue about their own fleshy understanding and reject God’s Truth as confirmed in Scripture and if this is True of those in Authority over us in the Church, we are to walk away if they reject Correction because God cannot Bless a Church or Person when they are in disobedience but when God’s Work is done in His way it never lacks His Supply.
Woman are Precious to God we never need to doubt this Truth, He grieves to see us being abused and will deliver us, Men who do this to Woman are walking in their Carnal flesh not The Spirit, God does not condone Male Chauvinism or forced Woman segregation (Romans 8 K.J.V )
Woman who have Blogs and Websites like those who Author Books are free to share God’s Truth as lead by The Holy Spirit and confirmed in Scripture because Men who read their Books or visit and follow them on Blogs are not under their Authority and they do not Preach or Teach them in Authority.
When Woman Bloggers visit a Man’s Christian Blog the Men are also under God’s Authority and are to share His Truth not what they or others think is right without Scriptural confirmation as some Preachers do both Men and Woman.
When we are in Christ Jesus it means we are set free to be all we were meant to be and I have found with many Woman Bloggers, great Love and Joy in being called by Jesus’ Name, yes as with faithful obedient Men, He is our Spiritual Husband and we are Proud that He is, we are part of His Body The Church and He Loves and Cherishes us, we obey Him willingly and do not reject His words for what we or others may think is better or want to do when it is in disobedience to God’s Truth as confirmed in Scripture.
If we have been disobedient we Repent and turn from evil and choose to do good by the empowering of The Holy Spirit, Jesus told us that we do have Freedom over the Slavery of Sin as confirmed in Scripture. (John8:34-36)
.God bless us all in our Love and Unity as valued Men and Woman of God.
Christian Love Always, Anne ( Grannie Annie)
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This is one of the great writings that all couples need to read together. Thanks a million!
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Thank you Peter for your Spiritual Discernment, so many like with Fashion go with the Flow, it takes Christian Commitment empowered by The Holy Spirit and God’s Strength to share His Truth to this Hurting World and I know you do seek to do this Peter as you depend on Jesus our only Teacher who leads us into all Truth. May God Bless you greatly as you reach out to His Children with His Truth.
Christian Love Always – Anne.
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Amen and amen. May the Lord Jesus continue to reveal Himself to you.
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Thank you Peter you are indeed a Blessing, I have to go into Hospital soon but I Hope to visit you before I do.
Anne ( Grannie Annie)
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It is well with your soul in Jesus’ name.
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Thanks Peter, I appreciate your encouragement very much. I was wondering though when I was visiting your Blog today why you have a Picture of a Statue of Buddha on your Post called; “God’s Generals: Are You a General in Your Field?” it didn’t seem to have a connection to what the Message was about which was good although not complete as we know we still have to Aim to be Perfected in Love putting our Carnal flesh to death by the empowering of The Holy Spirit..
Blessings – Anne.
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It was later I go to know it was that of Buddha. I typed God’s general on Pexels.com and that’s one of the images the search brought. Thanks for your concern!
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Yes I have also had some strange responses to my searches Peter on the Internet and there was error on some Websites Postings on various Topics which others than copy.
Blessings Anne.
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Thanks a million! May the Lord reward you abundantly in Jesus’ name. Amen!
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I’ve changed the image. Thanks a million and God bless.
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God Bless you also greatly Peter and as you seek to share His Truth may there be plentiful good Fruit.
In regard to the Internet we of course need it I’m sure you would agree or we wouldn’t have Blogs but we do have to be careful as there is deception on the Internet the same as with some of the Bible Translations, even very popular ones, it’s why I now use the KJV it is the most accurate and free of deception, God I believe has protected His Words but He will show us Translation errors if needed and Deception. When I wrote this Post I was using a different Translation, recently God showed me an error which I hadn’t been aware of, I do indeed give Thanks that I’m now using the KJV.
Blessings – Anne.
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Amen! I pray that the spirit of truth, the Holy Ghost will not depart from us in Jesus’ name. Amen!
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Bless you Peter and yes we can be sure He will never leave us, God knows those who are His and tells us not One of us will be lost, He Protects our Souls.
Blessings – Anne.
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Amen and amen!
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Not only to God, by the whole humanity!
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Amen!
God’s Richest Blessings Peter, Praying for you, please do the same for me during my Storm at this time.
Anne ( Grannie Annie)
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And amen!
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What I admire the most whilst reading this, is the dedication and devotion and determination you put into it. More grace I pray for you to do more in Jesus name amen. I am proud to be a woman. A help meet, a sister, a mother and God’s Master piece. Thank you for sharing. It opened my eyes to a lot more. God bless you
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I’m so pleased Whitney our paths crossed, you are a beautiful young Woman both outside and inside where it really counts. I wish I had known The Lord like you do when I was your age but I was deceived as a young Teenager that I came from an Ape and Jesus was just made up, so for almost 30 years I was an Atheist in darkness and I still had problems finding my way even after going to Church but each time Jesus rescued me.
I have a message for you that I received by e-mail and Posted not long after I started my new Woman’s Blog which I hope to continue in the future, I will leave the link for you, it reminds me of your Strength in the Lord, if I can help you in anyway let me know.
Woman of Strength – http://alifeofhopeandjoy.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/beautiful-woman-of-strength/
Blessings – Anne, Annie or Grannie Annie.
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Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate them. Am also glad our paths crossed.
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OK thanks
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Please let me know Whitney if you receive my Scree Shot and what you think about the Comments, perhaps you will not feel it’s a problem and yes if so it’s your choice as I shared before.
Blessings – Anne.
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I didn’t receive anything. Please where did you send it? Thank you for your response.
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I posted it Whitney to your address on your comments, I click edit and I can see it, do you have another e-mail address that I can try, one that’s not connected to WordPress or do you want me to try again with the same e-mail address or perhaps you can e-mail me and I will attach it for you.
For my e-mail address just edit my comment on your Blog . If you don’t receive it again I will do a Post and share about it, others may not know how Bloggers see their comments when using this theme and as I said before there has been a few who have the same problem, it’s not a good theme if it breaks up words but maybe there are other themes that do the same.
Blessings – Anne.
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Yes, pls send it here ibeclarice@yahoo.com. Thank you for your response and concern.
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Am also glad you brought this to my notice. Thank you very much.
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I hope it did not cause you too much concern Whitney, I was thinking of you, I like what I do to present well and I thought you would too, anyway lets move on, I will delete most of our comments in reference to all of this, I hope that is OK with you, but I very much appreciate your input it will save me concern in future.
Blessings – Anne.
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Thank you. I love to see my work perfectly done, even though there may be little errors ( human factors) I still give it my best.
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We will always have a Connection Whitney in Jesus Christ.
God Bless you greatly – Anne.
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Amen Anne and bless you greatly. Always a pleasure to read from you.
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Thank you Whitney, it’s really good making friends Blogging, we can encourage and support each other as we share God’s Truth.
Blessings – Anne.
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Yes we can. Friends are really important in every works of life.
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Yes I have received it. I will look into it but in the meantime pls can you try using another browser? Thank you for bringing it to my notice. God bless you
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Good I’m pleased you received it Whitney, WordPress advised I use Firefox what browser do you use? and why would it make a difference to the words being cut unless it was being done deliberately, what does your browser show?
Blessings – Anne.
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I can’t explain why the words are cutting. I just felt you shourld try . Driving another browser let’s see if things will be different. I use Chrome as my browser. My browser. Thank you very much
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Is Chrome showing that the words are being cut on Comments on your Blog Whitney ? if not I will contact WordPress and ask why Firefox is doing this to your Theme.
Blessing – Anne
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No dear. When the comments come in, they are well arranged. All your comments are well arranged. No one is cut. Otherwise, I would have understood all you have been trying to say without you having to send me the pictures. Everything is alright my dear. But if you contact them Pls do.
Thank you for your warm concern. I am really grateful. God bless you real good.
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Anne, I really liked your perspective. It is both balanced and insightful. I applaud your courage to write about this topic. I imagine it isn’t too popular these days.
Lord Bless you in your study of the Word and your writing.
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Thank you Wil for your encouragement and yes your right, I have had a lot of opposition to God’s Truth, He tells us not to call evil good or good evil so the opposition was not just with the Woman’s Role but with Abortion, Homosexuality, Cult Teaching, The Truth of The Trinity or Godhead, Jesus return, Evolution, Celebrating the Joy of Christmas and the remembrance of Christ’s Death at Easter, Atheism, Not continuing to Sin, Disunity with the Churches, Halloween, Evil Music, Jokes and Movies and anything that the World accepts as OK and God tells us not to do .
But as we know Wil God asks us who will contend with Him against evil, who will Stand up for His Truth, I Love God Passionately so I want to Glorify Him, He does not have to make me but He does Lead and Empower me.
Normally being Dyslectic I can’t write fluently but it flows when I write Posts or Comments, even Blog e-mails, I still make spelling mistakes and write backwards at times and my Punctuation is not good, yes I’m a Cracked Vessel but God is The Super Glue!
Thanks again Wil – Christian Love Always – Anne.
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Amen Sister in Christ Jesus-Yeshua Anne!!
Love ❤ Always and Shalom, YSIC \o/
Kristi Ann
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Thank you for your support and encouragement Kristi Ann, together we Stand or divided we fall, as the Scriptures confirm.
Yes Love Always in Christ Jesus, we are joined by The Spirit – Anne.
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Once again Patty my reply to your E-mail bounced back 3 times it seems it’s being blocked at your end as I’m receiving mail OK with the e-mail address that I used to send my response to you, perhaps you need to get your Daughter to check your settings, anyway so that you get my reply like last time I’m Posting it here, I hope you receive it OK through WordPress.
My reply to your e-mail…….
Good to hear your feeling better Patty and yes I agree a break from Blogging is a good idea, you have had a lot of extra responsibility and a rest will be good for you.
In answer to your sharing in your last e-mail , it is known that Latin and Spanish Translations are responsible for a lot of error in newer Translations, they have even deleted Scriptures that are confirmed as valid. The original text was in Greek and it was all in Upper case and there were no small Particles such as; a, it, is etc. there was also No Punctuation or Chapters and verses these were added later. Words and their meanings also change over time such as The Godhead is now called The Trinity, The First Sickle is now called the Rapture, Dinosaurs were called Dragons and are mentioned in Job and other Scriptures, although it is not called D.N.A it is also referred to in the New Testament and so is Aids etc.
A good tool to use is E – Sword, it is based on the oldest Translation of the Scriptures in use today so has less of man’s Translation errors which God will show us and as you can see at the bottom of this e-mail, (I will add it to my Post for you ) it confirms that the word Speak also referred to Preach but of course so does other Scripture.
Interesting Patty what you shared about gossips, I have heard this before but where did this information first come from? as we see confirmed in verse 36 it is in reference to a woman sharing God’s word, which is meaning for her to Preach, as the E-Sword also confirms. (I will add it to my Post for you )
When we don’t have a husband and this is the same for me at this time, we still have Jesus our only Teacher and Spiritual Husband, when I need clarification I go to Him now, having asked for God’s wisdom and empowering, which none of us were born with, including men, He tells us when we ask we receive and I don’t doubt I have received and because I have The Holy Spirit He leads me into all understanding, as we see confirmed in (1Corinthians 2:9-16 ) and in other Scriptures below.
1John 2:26-28 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is Truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
Colossians 2 :2 -3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in Love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the True God, and eternal life.
John 15:14-15 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.(KJV)
Matthew 10:26-28 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops (KJV)
Psalm 32:8 I will instruct you and teach you in the way you shall go. I will guide you with Mine eye.
1 Corinthians 2:9-16 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that Love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with Spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually discerned. But he that is Spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the Mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? but we have the Mind of Christ.
I very much appreciate Patty others sharing God’s Truth within their God given roles, men can share even if not Ordained and so can woman under His Authority as I do but I don’t Preach in a Church which would be in Authority over men and this is in disobedience to God’s guidelines for woman as confirmed again in the Scriptures below .
1 Timothy 2:11-14 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to Teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
The problem today is a lot of Christians don’t ask for God’s wisdom and empowering ( see link below) instead they depend on their own fleshy wisdom, understanding, discernment and logic or on others instead of on God’s. Some Congregations today also choose their Pastors for their worldly qualifications not on God’s values but as I said before even well known Theologians and Evangelists have been shown to teach error, such as Surgeon who claimed Jesus was a created Angel but as we know the Scriptures confirm differently. In reference again to Deborah, she had a husband but God gave her His Truth to share but not in combined Worship and yes they came to her not to her husband.
Wisdom – http://alifeofhopeandjoy.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/the-gaining-of-wisdom/
Take care Patty and please be careful what you accept as Truth, I was reading a man’s Post message recently and he said apart from other things in error that we continue to Sin when we are Born Again and it’s OK because we are forgiven, but this is not what is confirmed in the Scriptures below and in others. As for correcting him through the confirmation of Scripture in regards to God’s Truth, from past experience I have found that a lot of men and woman who Blog or have Websites, prefer their own fleshy understanding and so ignore God’s but Thankfully not all.
1 John 3:9 No one who is Born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been Born of God.
John 8:34-36 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, everyone who Sins is a slave to Sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed
1 John 5:18-20 We know that no one who is Born of God sins; but He who was Born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
1 Peter 1:21-23 Being Born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Romans 6 : 1 – 2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
1 John 3: 6-8 whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting Holiness in the fear of God.
Love and Blessings – Anne.
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Sorry to hear your still not well Patty, I’m praying you soon will be, take time to rest you have been working full time not just at work but at home too.
In reference to sharing God’s Truth, I never agree to disagree, God tells us to resolve our differences by bringing them to Him not to ignore them and what He confirms as His Truth will never contradict His Authoritative and Inspired words in Scripture, if others reject Scripture, I don’t argue with them, I move on, what’s the point of confirming God’s Truth with a fleshy Man’s or Woman’s agenda.
I am not in Authority over the Men that come to my Blog or who follow me and I do not Preach or Teach them in Authority, when I visit a man’s Blog they are in Authority not me and I do what I do on my Post Messages which is share God’s Truth not what I think is right without Scriptural confirmation as some Preachers do both Men and Woman.
You can be sure Patty if I share anything Scriptural it is God’s Truth and I have the Scripture that confirms that it is and we are all called to witness to God’s Truth both Men and Woman and to correct error, rebuke and warn but not just by what we believe to be right but what God tells us is right as we sit silently at Jesus’ feet meaning not being in disagreement with Him. Woman can have Authority over and teach other Woman ,Teenagers and Children .
I don’t care what Credentials or teaching a Man or Woman has or by what Title they call themselves, some Theologians teach error because they were taught error or they Trust in their own understanding, reasoning and logic or someone else’s, we have one Teacher Jesus Christ and He does not contradict Scripture like those you are listening to Patty are doing.
Matthew 23:8-10 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in Heaven. And do not be called Teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. NKJV
1John 2:26-28 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is Truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
You have not read my Post called “Woman are Precious to God” with understanding or you would know Deborah the Prophetess, rebuked Barak for wanting her to be in Leadership, but obeyed and went with him but than encouraged him to Lead and he was successful. Deborah called herself a Mother (Judges 5:7 ) as Eve was called, which is the Submissive role. (Genesis 3:20 ) Deborah shared God’s Truth as in Judgment under His Authority but never in the place of Worship, instead the Israelites came to her.
Please ask those who claim Patty that Priscilla, Lydia, Chloe were Ordained by Paul to share the Scripture that says they were, for Paul to Ordain a Woman it would mean he was contradicting and disobeying Scripture.
Some claim that Junias was a Woman but the early Greek confirms that this Apostle was a Man not a Woman as confirmed in the rest of the verse in Romans 16:7 and in the early Greek but it has been changed in later Translations to the Woman’s name Junia.
But what is a important confirmation is that for a Woman to be appointed as an Apostle it would mean she would have to Preach and be in Authority over Men and this is in contradiction to God’s guidelines concerning Men and Woman’s roles both in the Church and in Marriage. Those who believe contrary to this teaching the Scriptures say are ignorant as confirmed in (1Corinthians 14:38) and in (1Timothy 2:11-14) below we see why, yes the Truth will be revealed and they will be shown to be in error. We know this is not just cultural for Paul’s time because we are told it is in reference to all of God’s Saints which means in the Churches today too.
1 Timothy 2:11-14 Let the Woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a Woman to Teach, nor to usurp Authority over the Man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the Woman being deceived was in the transgression.
In the original N.I.V Translation which they claim was inspired by God, we find that it is the Man’s name Junais but in their later Translation 2010 which many refer to they have changed it to the Woman’s name Junia, a Latin name for females. If this person was an Apostle as Paul seems to imply and many others state, than it could not have been a Woman because as confirmed in Scripture for a Woman to be an Apostle it would mean she Preached and had Authority over Men, this would than be in contradiction to other Scriptures, this name is also translated as Junias in the Greek a Mans name not a Womans.
The reason for error in some later Translations is because they originally used a Spanish Translation which has other Scripture added, deleted and changed in error too, they did and not use the early Greek like most early Translators did including Strong’s Greek and Hebrew Concordance, yes there is error in these too but not like there is in other Translations but God will revel Man’s error to us as we are Lead by The Spirit.
To sum up Patty in regards to Woman being Ordained, it would have been impossible for Paul to have chosen a Woman to have the title or position of a Apostle because all Woman who served as Missionaries or messengers in the early Church would have been under the Authority of Men even the unmarried ones, they would not have been in Authority over Men and what they did would have been in agreement with the Woman’s role Ordained by God as confirmed in Scripture.
In reference to gambling in the Church, our focus is not to be on the Material things of this world, we cannot Love God and money, we will hate one and Love the other and Gambling is all about money regardless of the form it takes. God’s work done in God’s way never lacks His supply.
Colossians 2 :2 -3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in Love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the True God, and eternal life.
Matthew 10:26-28 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops (KJV)
Psalm 32:8
I will instruct you and teach you in the way you shall go. I will guide you with Mine eye.
God’s Love and Blessings Always – Anne.
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I enjoyed talking with you last night and thought I did read this, sure enough I did, but I re-read it and copied some things to “ponder” and pray over. Let me do some research on where I am leading with this. I trust your knowledge and want to explore this more. In Gods Love!! Patty
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Yes I also enjoyed sharing with you Patty, I always feel uplifted when I do, you have such a Loving heart, thanks for your encouragement too.
Take as much time as needed Patty, it’s important that we are in agreement on God’s Truth, if not we are to seek to resolve our differences with Him as He confirms His guidelines in the Scriptures, there is only one Truth and that’s God’s, all other is sinking sand.
Cristian Love and Blessings – Anne.
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So true. Actually I am enjoying my “seeking” for answers. God as always is more than willing to answer my questions. So much information. I also told my pastor I gave you his link for his sermons and he loved knowing he has a new parishioner in Australia! I will get together with him this week.
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Thank you Patty for sharing and yes it is a Joy to be taught by Jesus our only Teacher regardless of how we receive His Truth and what He Teaches us has no error, asking for His wisdom and His empowering by The Holy Spirit reveals to us all His Truth but we are to have no doubts that we have received them and yes His Truth sets us free unlike fleshy mans that puts us into bondage.
I feel very blessed to be part of Pastor David’s Church Family even though it’s long distance and I can’t worship and pray with you all together but I will be with you all in my heart and if there are any prayer needs please let me know. I’m also looking forward to following Pastor David’s weekly messages but I was wondering Patty if I can comment, would you mind asking him for me , I would really appreciate being able to share my heart thoughts with him, I have found in this way I learn as Jesus reveals more of His Truth through Scripture when I focus on the message and than respond, it is also the same when I’m Blogging.
Take Care dear friend and Sister in The Lord and remember your greatly Loved – Anne.
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I had already told him on Sunday I will call him and give him your contact – work is crazy this week but tomorrow an opportunity may arise to give him a call. (3 meetings going on that I do not have to be a part of and docket and financial reports done for the another – never a dull moment!!) Blessings and hugs Sister Anne!
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For you too Patty and also extra time to get through your workload.
Blessings and a Big (((HUG))) Sis -Anne.
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Thanks, next week will be better. The calm before the storm!! meaning come Sept we will be in full swing at both offices… 🙂 Spoke with Pastor David gave him your information and blog address. Have a wonderful weekend! Supposed to be nice so I hope to get much done around the house. Blessings dear friend!
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Thanks Patty for sharing my details with Pastor David, no doubt he is very busy too, it would be a blessing to hear from him but I will understand if I don’t.
This weekend will also be full for me with having the two girls sleep over again , it’s become a regular event now, Hmmmm when was the last time you played Board games like Monopoly etc ? and yes I lost, Wow ending up in prison was no fun even though I had Visitors Lol
Your always in my heart Patty, I’m hoping to have that cuppa with you before we go to Heaven or maybe two or three.
Blessings – Anne.
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I love Monopoly. glad you had a good time, even if you did lose. I usually lost to Tommy. We still have the game but everyone is too busy to play anymore.
blessings for a terrific week! I will be in touch. 🙂
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Once again thank you Patty for the Beautiful cards, as I shared on your Blog I’m packing! and yes we will take the time to have a game of Monopoly, as long as you let me win too. Lol
I just have to share something special with you Patty, we talk a lot about being kind to others in Funday School and Hailey and Jasmine are very responsive and often show kindness, I feel this is because they have a caring and kind Mum who is a good example to them although she has been very hurt including when she was going to Church, she still lets the Children come to Sunday School with me but won’t go to a Church herself anymore, please pray for healing for her.
It amazed even when playing Monopoly that both the girls offered to pay for me to get out of jail and when I didn’t have much money left I didn’t have to pay them rent when I landed on their property but what is very special is when we pray for our food or at bedtime, Jasmine prays for all the Children who don’t have food or a bed to sleep in and this came from her heart, I didn’t tell her to pray for them although I did talk about the Children needing our help and why. I’m so very blessed Patty to be able to share with these Girls, they are a very Special gift from God that I give Thanks for and they tell me often they Love Grannie Annie too.
Hugs and Blessings – Anne.
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I tried sending you an e-mail Patty in response to yours I received yesterday but it was returned and I received the message below.
—– The following addresses had permanent fatal errors —–
(reason: 554 resimta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net comcast 203.12.160.181 Comcast block for spam. Please see http://postmaster.comcast.net/smtp-error-codes.php#BL000000)
I will repeat my reply to you at the top of this Post comments, as we have run out of room here but I will also try emailing you later, there were a few spelling errors as my Spell Check is not working,
Blessings – Anne
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The message above was posted in error Patty I will write soon – Anne
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Hi Anne, I checked my email quickly tonight and yes I have your email. Things are getting back to a normal routine (whatever that is!) all my deadlines at work are completed and personal issues resolved. It has been a long few months. Blessings to you and your family!
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That’s great dear Patty and also that your deadlines are completed and your personal issues are resolved. It sure has been a long month, I’m so pleased it’s getting back to normal now.
God bless you and your family now and always -Anne
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Thank you – love and hugs from your American pal!
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❤ Thank you also Patty.
Love and ((( BIG HUGS ))) from your Aussie Pal too!
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Well said my friend, Hope you are well
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Yes I’m well but very tired Barb, the baby cries a lot and both his mum and myself are feeling the strain but the poor child has been through a very horrible and traumatic experience and is still suffering from the affects of it emotionally, please pray.
Thanking you – Anne.
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Today is the first day I did not wake up tired. Dear child they are the ones that are affected by the adults mess. I will pray
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Thank you Barb, I value your prayers.
Blessings – Anne
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Very true…yet we see it all over the developed world…a rush to insanity, today in the state the Supreme Court declare that man has the authority to redefine/remake an institution that has served humanity even before the advent of government and religions.
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You will have to share more about this with me Caleb, I’m not up with the latest news but what was before God, or were you meaning other religions not belief in our God of Eternity, it would be good if you shared you feelings in a Post too or have you already? I’m not receiving mail yet.
How is your work?, I would really like to know what you personally do in your job, is it mainly research?
Christian Love -Anne.
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I see and feel God’s love everyday because of the beautiful woman he blessed me to wake up each day. I see and feel God’s blessings everyday because of the women he blessed me to know in this lifetime…family, friends…blogger friends…even random strangers whose kindness and faith reminds me that God loves me so much that he takes time to let me know just that through others. Thank you my friend for sharing this. You are truly God’s gift to us. Every post is a loving reminder that God is always there for all of us. As for your question whether I like orchid or bluebonnet, like them both but I would say, orchid as it reminds me of the home I grew up at in the Islands. God bless my friend.
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Thank you dear Island Traveler, you are very much a dear Blogging friend to me and no doubt to many others too, your heart of Love for your Wife and Son and extended family and others such as friends and Blogging friends too, has left me with great respect for you and also Men like you and both you and them Jesus has used to heal the wounds that other Men have left when I was abused by them in life and on the Blogs too.
Also not knowing much about my father you have touched my heart many times with the Love and Joy you have in being a Dad to your Son, I appreciate how you show it in many ways too, he is indeed blessed as you and your wife are in having him.
I will check to see what Island Orchids look like, there are a few different varieties, yes I know you have some pictures of the ones you like on your Blog but I have forgotten now where I saw them and what they looked like.
Take Care Island Traveler and Thank you again – Christian Love Always – Anne.
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Women’s roles in churches are important as are mens, we all are to fulfill the role or calling . Men’s leadership and Authority is accepted but women have also leadership roles in many areas of church life . As Paul says in Galatians, no difference in importance or value just differing roles each making up the body together .
Blessings
Ron
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Thanks Love for summing up the importance of our God given roles and yes as you know I have been in leadership in the Church but always under the Pastor and Elders Authority including yours which I was grateful for and still am, being able to ask for your help or advice in important matters is very much appreciated and valued.
Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow – Christian Love Always – Anne.
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God’s greater Blessings are for those who obey Him and not their Carnal flesh, we are to put Him first not ourselves and when we do we will have deep inner Joy regardless of what Hardship we encounter in this fallen World and we can be assured we will never walk alone He is with us all the way.
Blessings Grannie Annie
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“My” thoughts on this…not to contradict your views; only to give mine Anne.
We are all called to spread the Gospel, whether we are male or female and I think that to be scriptural.
Whether we do this in a grocery store, a neighborhood, a church or a blog; are we not teaching or preaching each other, and if our neighbour or a reader of our blog is male and we are female is that wrong? Is that considered to be not keeping ‘silent’? Some say that if a woman speaks or gives testimony or ‘teaches’ scripture but it is not ‘preaching’ then it is okay or perhaps writing a book with teaching is even then to be questioned…. To me wherever this happens is where it happens.
I truly believe and if I am in error then I am. It is true that God created Adam first and gave him a help mate, and I believe we …speaking now as husband and wife… need to respect each other in all things; wife to husband… wife to God….. husband to wife…and husband to God. And if we do this we will be in accordance with what God wants for us.
Again Anne, I respectfully allow for your view, and value your knowledge, and I don’t wish to be in discord with you …it’s just that I have researched in many ways, and this is what I believe rightly or wrongly…. Diane
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Thank you for sharing Diane and as I confirmed in my message, I agree with you, I have had positions of Leadership in the Church but always under the Authority of Men, including Ron, and I was grateful to be under their Authority, their support and encouragement was very much appreciated and so would have been their correction given in Love if needed.
I’m an Evangelist and often share about our Awesome God, His Love and His guidelines including on Men’s Blogs and on Websites, I have corrected error too when lead to but I don’t just share what I think but what is confirmed in Scripture as I have done on this Post, so I very much agree with you Diane, we are all called both Men and Woman to share the wonderful Hope we have in The Lord but we do so within the role He ordained for us.
Just to recap the word “Speak” in context in the original Greek means to Preach or Teach in Authority over Men and for us to do so as Woman is disobedience.
Christian Love Always – Anne.
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Deep words here.. I like the balance to it. May God help us get it right. Thanks for sharing
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Yes you are right Victory, we do need Balance in our relationships and Thankfully it is God that gives us His balance when we ask for it.
It’s good to hear from you again Victory, Thank you for sharing, I thought I must have embarrassed you with being so open on your Post about Porn when you didn’t reply but I felt lead to share how God empowered me to overcome a big problem in my life it was a very difficult time for me but I have freedom now, can we ever stop Thanking our Abba Father.
Christian Love Always – Anne
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Oh no! I’m sorry Anne, I’ve been so swamped recently, that’s why I haven’t replied to your comment. I totally appreciate how open you were about it. It helped many people. I was also addicted to porn for more than 10 years and I’m free as well today. Thanks for sharing it. And we can’t ever stop thanking our Abba Father for freedom. 🙂
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I’m pleased Victory that I was able to help others know that there is Freedom in Christ Jesus over any bondage.
I have never been interested in Porn like that which you shared on your Blog but I know others that have been addicted to it and how it polluted their soul but as you found out repentance brings cleansing and renewal.
Blessings – Anne.
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Spiritually inspiring and enhances the true meaning of marriage and the two become one.Warm regards.Jalal
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Thank you for your insight Jalal, your words of Love to your wife that you share for all the world to hear, which means you are Proud to be her husband, are always so tender and uplifting.
I often read your replies to others too when I comment on your Blog and once again your always respectful and thankful for their sharing and mine, you are a very special Man Jalal and one to be respected.
Christian Love Always – Anne.
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I am honored and humbled by your kind comment.What comes out of the heart touches the hearts.l appreciate your friendship. Sincerely jalal
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Your welcome Jalal and what is in my heart is also in my head, I appreciate you passion both for those you Love and for upholding what is Truth and good in our world today.
Blessings – Anne.
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