Thorns do not hurt us unless we…..

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Rose and thorn 1W4Thorns do not hurt us unless we seek to damage the Rose, God in His wisdom created thorns for protection and He also created us to reap what we sow for our own protection, so that when we do evil we would come to our senses and when we do good we will experience His deep inner Joy but He does not hurt us deliberately or willingly afflict us. W4Lamentations 3: 33 For God doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men. W4

Roses Sunshine 2W4We need to take to heart that God is Love and can do no evil and all good things come from Him, all He created was very good, knowing this Truth means we will Love and Trust Him in our heart and so have His Peace, Eternal Hope and deep inner Joy regardless of our circumstances. Yes we may have tears in our eyes at times, Jesus cried too but God also reassures us that He is near in many ways, if we have eyes to see and ears to hear.
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Praying Hands 1W4When we pray for ourselves or others, He hears and answers when they are in His good will for us, He does not give us what’s not good as some claim so we have to be careful what we pray, His compassion and mercy are beyond earthly reckoning but He does gives us our hearts desires because when we are in Christ Jesus they are according to His will.W4Psalm 97:9-11 For thou, Lord, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods. Ye that Love the Lord, hate evil: He preserveth the souls of His Saints; He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked. Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.W4Psalms 100:5 For the LORD is good; His mercy is everlasting; and His Truth endureth to all generations.W4Psalms 117:2 For His merciful kindness is great toward us: and the Truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.W4

rose-thorns 1W4We do damage to ourselves when we do what is wrong in God’s eyes and because we live in a fallen world others can hurt us too, even those claiming to have faith. Satan also puts us to the test but he will fail, our souls are protected by God when we are His.W4Yes God has great righteous anger towards sin because it causes heartache and suffering and those who continue to do it without repentance will suffer Eternal separation from God and will only know evil for Eternity with out hope of it changing and sadly this is their choice.W41 John 5:19   We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.W4Psalm 97:9-11 For thou, Lord, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods. Ye that Love the Lord, hate evil: He preserveth the souls of His Saints; He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked. Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.W4We can also cause our own problems in other ways, I did this with harmful dieting as a Teenager, it caused health issues throughout my life and I still have problems today because of it. So do I blame God for this affliction and claim it is was for my good and that He wanted me to suffer to teach me. I do not give thanks for the affliction but I do give thanks always that God gives me His strength and empowers me to endure any affliction or hardship that life brings to me even as I go through it, we don’t walk alone when our heart focus is on God… How good is that! W4Isaiah 43:1-3 – Do not be afraid, for I have ransomed you. I have called you by name; you are mine. When you go through deep waters and great trouble, I will be with you. When you go through rivers of difficulty, you will not drown! When you walk through the fire of oppression, you will not be burned up; the flames will not consume you. For I am the LORD, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Saviour.” W4

Crown-Of-ThornsW4What I’m going to share now is very personal but needs to be shared so you can see how very damaging it is to believe that God will deliberately allow us to suffer… I ask you, who was it that put the crown of thorns on Jesus’ head, it was not God, it was our sin.W4During a Bible study with Ron about 6 years ago, the woman leader claimed that everything that happens to us good and bad in life is God’s will, it seems this makes it ok for evil to be in the world, for children and babies to suffer, for the elderly to be made fun of and not respected, for people to hurt each other, for separation and divorce, for sickness and death to cause grief and sorrow, as does all types of evil and for us to continue to sin, all because God willingly allows it, did Jesus suffer such a cruel death so evil could continue Eternally or did God seek to save us from it, He tried many times to warn Mankind through the Prophets but they did not listen and killed them and so He sent Jesus His beloved Son too, our Lord and Saviour, but instead of them taking to heart what He shared, they killed Him too.W4As I was listening to this woman, I realized that I was being deceived by man’s own fleshy understanding of the Scriptures. I asked her did God plan all the abuse I experienced as a Child (see link below ) that had caused me to loose the joy of Childhood and live in fear, she said yes.W4Childhood – https://freedomborn.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/the-early-years-a-little-lost-girl/W4I then shared that I had also been sexually molested much more than once from the age of 3 and also raped by a Doctor after He had talked me into having an Abortion when I was not yet 15.W4I told her about my first husband who also was badly abused as a Child, and that he bashed me many times, even when I was carrying his Children, none of them survived, the reason was not known at the time, the abuse was not the main cause although it may have added to loosing my babies as they were very weak during gestation, but it also may have been the Abortion or a defective gene, or because my birth Mother was an Alcoholic and alcohol in excess can affect the Placenta too. Later my first husband found another woman who could give him a child and he abandoned me. I have forgiven him and I hope he has also forgiven me for the hurt I caused him, we were both badly abused as Children and so I have compassion for him too and I pray that he may have the healing I have had through the Lord.W4Sadly this woman said yes, it was all God’s will that I suffered what I did, so He could bring good out of it, this is Slander ( Romans 3:8 ) God does not do or cause evil, we both walked out and never went back, although I did try to reason with her later but she continued to believe this deception that others believe and teach too.W4God is not the Author of sickness and death, He also does not cause babies to die or to be retarded, or for them and us to be abused, all good things come from Him, He does not plan evil so we will suffer to teach us although pain can sometimes be a warning something is wrong but this is for good not bad, the same as feeling guilt for the wrong we do, when it brings us to our senses. God even does good for those who are evil but they don’t thank Him or even recognize it is from Him.
Bible CrossW4The Scriptures including the old Hebrew are impossible to understand without The Holy Spirit (1Corinthians2:9-16) and so there has been much error in knowing the original meaning of what was written. W4
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As an example; what Job said to his wife when he was suffering, yes we know now the evil that he was afflicted with came from Satan who had the right to put him to the test the same as he does with us but what we need to remember is that later God reassured Job, who didn’t have the indwelling of The Holy Spirit that He was the Creator of all that was good not evil. W4
Job 76W4Job did know though that it was wrong to curse God as his wife foolishly suggested in her loss and heartache, instead he affirmed to her the need to continue to Trust in God’s goodness, regardless of what happened in life good and bad and we need to do this too. W4
It’s very, very sad that some  think like I did once too, that God does evil and not just Atheists or unbelievers but some Christians too…if we believe that He does, we will not Love and Trust Him in our heart. Some say isn’t God in control of everything, yes He can bring good out of evil but He does not do it or willingly allow it, although because it does happen He tolerates it for now but it grieves Him greatly to see us suffer as it did for Him to see Jesus suffer but He will end all evil soon, right now He is very patient, it is not His will anyone perishes, He is giving all His Children time to repent.W4Lamentations 3: 33 For God doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.W4
After being deceived myself and believing all that happens comes from God, including suffering, even though it was sugar coated, I have now asked forgiveness for doing so as  I also passed on e-mails that taught this error. I remember one I received about God putting us in an oven and watching us suffer, this was to mold and shape us but that is not what the Scripture is referring to, although He does watch over us until we come to our senses, and intercedes if needed. I was saved from death 3 times when I believed because of being deceived as a young Teenager that God did not exist and I came from an Ape, it caused me to think that Jesus had abandoned me and that I had been lied to by my Sunday School Teacher.W4But what caused me in the end to doubt that it was true that God caused suffering and made me think again and pray about it seeking Him for His Truth, was that we ourselves would not delight in our Loved ones suffering or being abused or seek to arrange it and inflict hardship and pain on them, or even willingly allow it, yet this is what is claimed about God our Loving Abba Father. The Truth is He molds and shapes us as we choose to walk in the fruit of The Spirit not by us suffering, we are empowered by Him when we choose to do good  so and in this way we are able to put our fleshy or carnal nature to death which causes evil and come close to God so the Devil flees, he hates goodness.W4Galatians 24 -26 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. if we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.W4
Rose and thorns 1W4God is Love and Love cannot do evil, we see this as we read with God’s understanding  (1Corinthians13 and Galations5:23-26) His discipline and chastising is not as some claim either, yes He does allow us our own freewill, He does not force us to Love and obey Him, He does not want puppets and so He lets us go our own way even knowing we will suffer, this is His Discipline and also His protection. W4
Prodigal-SonW4It’s like we see in the Parable of  the Prodigal son who went his own way but suffered until he came to his senses. It is the same with us, because of our sin we cannot fellowship with God, we are cut off from Him, which is our choice not His and so we have time out and this is never going to be easy or pleasant the same as it wasn’t when we were Children but what a welcome home when we repent and so turn away from doing evil.W4
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If your sinning and someone in the Church chastises you through the confirmation of Scripture, then thank God for sending them and thank them for caring enough to rebuke and warn you.W42 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.W4When we know God’s heart of Love for us because we have asked and received His wisdom and also the empowering of The Holy Spirit which He freely gives us (1Corinthians2:9-16)  and we have stopped trusting in our own fleshy or worldly understanding or others, we will have no doubts that He is Love and can do no evil and that He protects us Eternally, nor will we believe that He causes our suffering and hardship, even if others claim He does. because they won’t have inner Peace till they really know His heart of Love for them (Isaiah5:21)W4Psalms 117:2 For His merciful kindness is great toward us: and the Truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD. W4Lamentations 3: 33 For God doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men. W4Jeremiah 29 :11-12 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. W4Hurt people, hurt people and themselves, only God can heal us of the pain of their abuse and our own and  fill us with His Love and forgiveness for those who have hurt us, including us, Satan then has no foothold, so we ask in Faith and receive.W4

God’s Love does not have thorns to hurt us, it has a Beautiful glowing Reflection.

W4Rose Reflection 7W4Thank you for listening, I realize this has been a long message  but I felt led to share it fully and as always, please feel free to respond even if you don’t agree and we will reason together with Scripture as we are empowered to understand it by The Spirit in all of God’s Truth.W4Christian Love Always from both of us – Anne.
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Hi I’m a Spiritual Child of The King of Kings and Lord of Lords, my name is Anne. I live in Queensland Australia, I’m very much a People person believing we are all people of worth and unique, so I have much Joy in sharing with people personally and over the Internet. My main focus in life is my wonderful Friendship with Jesus Christ, without Him everything else would be meaningless, I have deep heartfelt thanks and appreciation that I'm a Spiritual Child of The King of Kings and I seek to share with others how truly wonderful that is with the hope they too will realize the same and be set free.
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11 Responses to Thorns do not hurt us unless we…..

  1. Thanks Anne. While it is true God is not the author of evil and suffering, He does allow us to suffer the consequences of our actions when we foolishly and stubbornly choose to rebel against Him. I talk more about sowing and reaping in the second chapter of my book. Did you finish reading it? I would love to hear your thoughts.

    Galatians 5:24–26 is a good passage. Christ is our provision for victory over sin. Believers need not be responsive to the sinful nature because we have crucified it. This does not refer to self-crucifixion or self-mortification. Rather, it refers to the fact that Christians are identified with Christ in His death and resurrection. Paul declared this had been his experience (2:20) and that of all believers (Rom. 6:1–6; Col. 2:11; 3:9). The crucifixion of our sin nature took place at the cross, but it becomes effective when we are converted. This does not mean our sin nature is then eradicated or even rendered inactive, but that it has been judged, a fact we should reckon to be true (Rom. 6:11–12). So victory over the sinful nature’s passions and desires has been provided by Christ in His death. Faith must continually lay hold of this truth or we will be tempted to try to secure victory by self-effort.

    You quoted Lamentations 3:33 three times. This is a wonderful verse! To put this Scripture in proper context, we need to study the entire third chapter. Verses 19-30 abound with hope. How do you interpret verses 1-18?

    Did you ever read my article on Jeremiah 29:11? I will leave a link for you: http://joequatronejr.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/does-jeremiah-2911-apply-today.

    God bless!

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    • Hi Pastor Joe, Wow this is going to be a long reply and you say well what’s new Anne Lol!

      Thank you for taking the time to share with us and yes we do indeed reap what we sow, it is not by God’s hand and this is what is being said although not always understood in Lamentations 3, when God tells us He will repay evil for evil in the lives of those who sin, it is meaning He will not restrain His hand to prevent it, He can’t when we sin we separate ourselves from Him as confirmed in Scripture (see below) and what we both agree with, is we than reap what we sow, evil brings evil, good brings good.

      God also does not hear our prayers when we sin, as an example: we can pray for inner Peace and Joy and others can pray this for us too but those prayers won’t be answered if we are holding onto bitterness and resentment instead of forgiving those who have hurt us but we can pray that others will see their need to repent and share God’s Truth with them but it is still their choice, God will never force them to repent and if they don’t they are giving Satan a foothold in their lives and yes they will reap what they sow.

      John 9: 31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth His will, him He heareth.

      Psalm 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

      As for continuing to sin, yes I agree with you Pastor Joe ,we are to choose not to sin putting our flesh to death, we are to aim to be perfected in Love. I will share some Scripture with you below but there are others that confirm that we no longer sin when we are Born again.

      Jesus has set us free Pastor Joe so we can put our flesh to death by the Spirit because as He confirms in Scripture we are no longer Slaves to the flesh which causes us to sin. No Temptation to sin will be greater than we can bear, Jesus provides the way out. God’s Nature or seed cannot co – exist with Adams, the word CANNOT in the Greek, means Absolutely Never! which means, we don’t only not sin we CAN’T! because when we are Born again the Old has gone the New has come, we have God’s seed or Nature.

      John 8:34-36 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

      1 John 3:9 No one who is Born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he CANNOT go on sinning, because he has been Born of God.

      1 John 5:18-20 We know that no one who is Born of God sins; but He who was Born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

      1 John 3: 1-11 ( 6-7 ) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him. Little children, let no man/woman deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.

      1 John 2:4-6 He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His word, in him verily is the Love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.

      1 John 4:17-19 Herein is our Love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as He is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in Love; but perfect Love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in Love. We Love Him, because He first Loved us.

      Romans 8: 8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      Romans 8 :12-15 Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation—but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. or if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

      Romans 6:1-7 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.(KJV)

      Romans 6:18-20 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

      Ephesians 4:23-24 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

      2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

      Titus 2:13-15 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all Authority. Let no man despise thee.

      Colossians 3:4-6 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.

      Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

      Having asked for God’s wisdom Pastor Joe by the empowering of The Holy Spirit and from my own experience when tempted after coming to heart repentance, I have no doubt that we do not continue to sin, that we can put our flesh to death and when something is dead it is dead.

      Christian Love in our Unity in Christ Jesus – Anne

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  2. andtheword says:

    Dearest Annie, Thank you for sharing again. You always lift me up when I read your posts. They are so full of the person you are, and I know how much you are on fire for The Lord and how much you love telling people about his love. Good for you Annie for putting your deepest feelings out there for all to read. I was really touched by all that you wrote.

    God bless you and Ron

    Sisters In Christ
    Vivienne xxx

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    • It’s really great to see you blogging again Vivienne, I’m also overwhelmed by your Loving, kind and encouraging words , I think without you to just listen and care, I would have given up a long time ago with having had so many Computer and Blog issues.

      I have a lot of other Bloggers Posts to catch up with, which I will now do till March and I will also visit Steve and rejoin up with him, not sure why I’m not, I also want to do another Post on this very important Truth as God showed me something more in regard to it.

      I know your not Posting now yourself Viv but I was wondering if you would like to do a guest Post for me on any topic that impacts your heart, no rush, just think about it and when I start Posting in April if wanted I will Post yours too or maybe you would like me to Reblog one of your Posts, think about it and let me know.

      Christian Love now and always – Anne.

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  3. Anne, you have such a beautiful heart. I can see the Spirit there. God does not do bad things! Blessings to you and yours! Marie

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  4. Ron says:

    I agree with you Anne, that God does not bring affliction upon us, but He bears it with us, when it does come, sometimes through our own choices. The picture Jesus paints of Himself, is the Good Shepherd, who was to care for and protect his flock, not to harm them but to care and protect them. To me this is the loving Father I have experienced, when scripture says that God is love, it does not compute with sorrow and suffering.

    Blessings
    Ron

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    • Yes Love, God feels our pain but He will never go against our free will, He tells us He sees sinners from afar but when He knows we are His, He protects our soul and rescues us even at the point of death knowing we will repent and He never condemns us but He does say go and sin no more.

      Christian Love Always dear – Anne

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  5. pilbra says:

    Very emotional helping others to see the way God helps use through our lives

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    • I’m so pleased Barb that you were blessed by this message, thank you for sharing your thoughts. What I wrote has impacted me greatly, after reading it to you last night I was so full of Joy which was still with me all day today, I think I needed to put into words what was in my heart, I just keep thanking God that He is Love.

      I phoned but could not reach you , I will try again tomorrow, Thanks again.

      Christian Love – Anne

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